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Gay Planet in Karachi

A homosexual man’s guide to Pakistan biggest metropolis.

[Text by Jalaluddin; picture by Aisha Linnea Akhtar is published in a slightly different form here.]

Pakistan. The country is different by its very definition. A nation based on an ideology which to this day is obscured by the mists of a lack of clarity. Vibrant to the extent of mass hysteria. Passionate to the extent of mass violence. Active to the extent of mass restlessness. A nation of professional rationalizers with wild emotions and deep apathy. People from within this cosmos that we call Pakistan can not understand what it means. Only outside eyes with the benefit of perspective can understand what we have failed to grasp.

And then there is Karachi. The most vibrant, passionate and energetic face of Pakistan. Every element of Pakistani identity is accentuated to a higher degree here. The city is much more ethnically, socially, politically and culturally mixed than the rest of the country. It is more accepting of differences and less forceful at conformity. Karachi is home to fourteen million people thronging and jostling day in and day out to play the drama of life. The very soul of Pakistan.

Homosexuality is illegal in Pakistan. Homosexuality is religiously unacceptable in Pakistan. Homosexuality is socially unacceptable in Pakistan. Homosexuality is an entrenched cultural truth in Pakistani history. And in the Pakistani life today.

As long as people are quiet about it, and pursue homosexual desires, before or after marriage, and are not caught in the act, it is OK. (Although policemen who catch people in the act often demand bribes.) Men are allowed incredible leeway in their sexual pursuits as long as they are not discovered.

Historically, pederasty, gratification of sexual pleasures between older men and pubescent boys, was so universally established and practiced that it has found ample space in Pakistan's literature, poetry and other forms of communication used by the common man.

After travelling in different cities of Pakistan I feel that Karachi is the city where homosexuality finds the most acceptance. Socially. Peshawar and Quetta are cities where acceptance of pederasty and the homosexual act are considered normal but any open avowal of this would not be acceptable to anyone. In contrast, in Karachi people might still accept you for being a homosexual.

Most homosexuals who have to live in these conditions have leant to accept some of the dictates of society to work around their lives. Marriage is the norm. A vast majority of homosexual men have an active sexual life before marriage. And a very large number of homosexual men have an active extra marital sexual life after marriage as well. Since the marriage is seen as a forced situation many homosexuals feel that cheating after marriage is not wrong and make it a part of their lives.

Gay life in Pakistan is very different from that of other parts of the world. There are no proper cruising spot. Although Frere Gardens, a large colonial garden in front of the US consulate used to be a cruising spot. Large numbers of people gathered there and homosexuals could find many of their own. But, after the restrictions placed on that location due to security issues, that place is now nearly closed down.

There are no specific cruising spots in Karachi. Yet, malls, bazaars, the beach, parks and other public places can be used to spot people and then to ogle them in a discreet manner. This is a popular convenient way of availing opportunities of homosexual contacts in a society where it is not acceptable. Since people in Karachi still live with families, meetings are arranged at restaurants or other public locations. For a more intimate setting people use their cars, secluded spots and their houses. All of these are locations where people can interact without any continuous consciousness of being on public display.

With such a large community of homosexuals it is only natural for like minded people to arrange more meetings with each other. This has caused a number of events to crop up which can be called gay only. These include dance parties in private houses which are slightly uncommon due to the possibility of being exposed. Beach parties and farm house parties are quite common because of the secluded location.

Since gay life in Pakistan is not as active as in many other countries the gay community is not divided into strong sub-groups like in the rest of the world. This leads to a stronger bond and cohesion in the group and one can flit from a bear to a muscleboi and then back again during the course of three shots of vodka and a beer.

Of course, this underground movement does lead to a lot of exposure to homosexual people. But at the same time this is restricted to a small number. A majority of homosexuals do not associate or actively pursue these gay social events. Being a homosexual is still considered a taboo, even by many homosexuals.

62 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wah. What a good piece. I'm in Multan and I go to Karachi for bizness purposes many times in a month and this is all true. keep it up.

M. Rashid said...

What are you trying to prove by putting this article in your site? Are you against Pakistan?

Anonymous said...

wow the comment about 'against Pakistan' you sound so defensive. he is just stating what he feels and has observed.

I totally second him, although I do not live in Pakistan. I found it much easier to find sex when I was 20 then when I was 30 and I went back.

Atif said...

Its always easy to find something nasty for a nasty person..:-)

slimbear said...

hi im saleem raza and i live in karachi.ya i know islam is not accept ,,gay relationship.but what i do im gay god gives me this feeling this is not make my own.im gay that all.i like old big heavy hairy married men ya i like that ,thats all.this is truth of my life.i was done many time 'fun with fat old men'.every time i try to change my self but nothing.now i know life is love with old men....

Anonymous said...

I am wondering what happens to lesbian women in Pakistan or it too much to even muse about homosexual Pakistani women! However they do exist, so it would be interesting to about them as well.

Anonymous said...

Really interesting piece, thanks for sharing this.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, this is a muted though honest piece. I come from India where homosexuality finds its own 'devils'. However with article like this we do bring the issue to the forefront in an effort to gain equal acceptance and rights.

Nouman said...

What an artical. Hi, I'm Nouman, basicaly from Pakistan but living South Africa. Mr Soofi wrote it true. Though It's there, Everyone knows that it exists but nobody wants to accept the reality. It's all around us. In Our Institutes, Malls, Our Work Place, Our Neighbourhood. I don't think it was against Pakistan in anyway. Its the truth like broad day light. Yet we don't want to consider it. Thanks again Mr.Soofi

Dream Boy said...

I am a gay. I wanna ask a question from you guys. When I marry with another gay will I be wife or husband ?

mastandaa said...

This is not the Karachi you are talking about... Its all about a city of your imagination. Ok let the people know how many times you have intercourse with males and with how many peoples you did it. Might be you are gay by yourself so in your lusty thoughts you always see people in same manner. I am a Karachi born 26 years old, till date only pathans are famous for gay ship in Pakistan but there is not proven so please tell people about your experience so they can understand your feelings.

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Sunil said...

thanks for an interesting article. I am Indian, but I have lived during the past few years in a city in Western Europe that has had a lot of new immigration from Pakistan, particularly from the areas of Sialkot and Gujrat. I never realized it would be so easy to cruise handsome men for sex until a 20something Punjabi guy started flirting with me. The problem, however, is that many of them neither consider themselves gay, nor do they want to engage in sex that will make them feel less manly: like kissing. Yet, even when many claim not to be gay or bi, their cocks became hard just when I touched their body. It is all very confusing. I don't understand a man telling me that he only likes girls and then to chase after me.

Anonymous said...

I guess its good enough to recognise others will and if its true let them live their lives the way they wish to

Anonymous said...

Hi there,
First of all thank you for posting this article. I am Pakistani American and now live in USA. I had my first sexual experience at the age of 18 with my best friend. It was weird , we never talked about it afterwards. However, I still remember it very well and for him he is living a married life in Pakistan. And as for me I now live with my boy friend in USA for the past 15 years. We are just like another couple in America. I just wish that Pakistani government recognize the importance of human rights, and allow gays and lesbians to live the their lives. After all, they're citizens of Pakistan and deserve their constitutional rights. Please don't think that I am against Pakistan, I LOVE my motherland and I know that I will always be looked at as Pakistani American in western society. However, I just wish that Pakistani government can learn to differenciate between religion and the human rights of her citizens. Thank you
Pakistan Zindabad. "Long live Pakistan"
P.S: I am looking for a website for Pakistanis to share their views on homosexuality if anyone knows this website please hit me up at : imin2latins@yahoo.com

SALEEM said...

HI ME AGAIN.IM SALEEM FROM KARACHI PAKISTAN.SOME BUDY ASKING ME MY MIND IS SO LUSTY,IM FINDING A LUSTY PEOPLE AROUND THE ROAD.I ASK FROM EVERY BUDY WHAT DO I DO?IM NOT A NORMAL GUY IM GAY I KNOW THIS IS POISON FOR ME BUT WHAT I COULD THIS IS NOT MAKE MY OWN THAT FEELING.I KNOW STR8 MEN OR BOY HAVE A NICE FEELING .THAT IS NICE BUT WHAT ABOUT MY FEELING.HAVE U ANY QUIST.... OF ABOUT ME?NO WAY...... I KNOW U R STR8 BUT U THINK ABOUT IF U R GAY THEN WHAT U DO??????????? THINK OF IT ???

Jahanzeb Al-Amriki said...

Interesting and very well written article. However, it kind of gives off the impression of homosexual relations solely for the purpose which any homosexual knows is not true. It doesn't come down to just pleasure, just like it doesn't in straight relationships. It is honestly about love, as cheesy as that may sound. The conditions of homosexuals in Pakistan is so sad, and I can only pray for a relief. I am American and my parents are of Pakistani descent, therefore, all the cultural pressures still exist for me, even though I am American. I am gay and a Muslim, and I find no condtradictions in the two. After all, if i question my sexuality, it would be like questioning God, since He is the one who created me. If someone has a problem with homosexuality, take it up with God, and not with the His creation.
Ma'salama
-jahanzeb

bliss said...

as much as i like to ignore the fact that Pakistan an Islamic republic also have communities that believe in homosexuality and this whole thing is just another propaganda against us from outside world who is trying to give us a "bad name/reputation", its true! even though im very much of a Muslim and if i say i support homosexuality it would go against my belief;s but would like to say that just because i believe in certain way of life doesn't give me a right to dictate my belief;s on someone else. everyone has a right to live as they please, we cannot force someone to live a certain way and we certainly dont have the right to play God! , so let them be and leave it to God to give them HAdayah and pray for them.

Anonymous said...

i agree with the writers opinion, because i myself is 51 yrs old from karachi and gay from childhood,i m living very happy married life with 4 children.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I don't understand why some people are so much against this article. Just like in any other country there are gays in PK too.

Homosexuality had existed in PK since long. I had lived in Karachi till age 15, and it had been there all the time.

Only it is looked down upon socially; although the pathans were reputed to practice sodomy for long.

farooq said...

the article has described the homosexuality in Pakistan specially in Karachi, a good research work done. I myself am a paki bottom boy living in Karachi, and congratulate the author living in India for a very informative article.

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Ansar said...

Where exactly can you go and expect to find gay men or boys in Karachi. I see many boys on the streets selling stuff. I understand many of them are gay. Is this true?

Also barber shops are doing gay activities. What about massage parlours? are there any in Karachi which also have gay activities?

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Paul said...

This article is wonderful. Still I find it so sad that people regardless of gender, products of their Mother's and Father's DNA, all of whom represent biological miracles, still today must hide within the society of which they are a contributing part, for fear of being judged or harmed because of the way their chromosomes and DNA formed the genetic links to create the person that they are.

The very source of such discrimination comes from religious dogmas around which people are taught not to judge one another instead, celebrate differences and diversity from which mostly "good" is derived when acceptance is the norm.

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Anonymous said...

First i must say, dont wash your dirty cloths on Road!
Secondly in pakistan Gayism is not like other countries, we do have a lot of gays but mostly are those which became in desperation of opposite sex ! PPl like Ali Saleem or Sheikh Amir Hassan or Tariq Ameen are basically wanna bes!
We must condem this ongoing shit!

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Anonymous said...

hi , nice article but y people are here marketing themselves and give their number and email id for sex.

Anonymous said...

Hey everyone. I am a filmmaker from karachi.
I am making a documentary about "Homosexuality and their rights in Pakistan". Anyone interested in the film please contact me at this email:
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I believe homosexuals should have their rights , as the heterosexuals have.
I will be thankfull for your support.

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Waseem said...

May Allah bless you hidaya...the sons of Qaum-e-Loot (AS).

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tumhari maa ka yar said...

This is indian Dont Panic All Pkistani This is indian Act So Keep It Up KArne Don In ko In Ka To Kaam He yeh Hai Haram Zady Indianz

Ahmed said...

Allah aap ko aur hum sab ko hidayat de aur islam ke bataye huay raste pe chalne ki taufeeq de.... aur shaitaan, nafs aur ghalat lifestyles ke shar se mehfooz rakhe.. aur jo log jurrat karte hain islam ke khilaf chalne ki aur phir us pe fakhar karne ki aur us kaam ko aam karne ki, allah un sab ka bera gharak farmaey.. Aameen

Ahmed said...

YOU DID NOT ALLOW MY COMMENT TO BE POSTED AS I HAD PRAYED FOR MUSLIMS IN MY COMMENT AND APPEALED TO THE COMMENTATORS TO FOLLOW THE PATH OF ISLAM.... YOU HAVE ONLY ALLOWED COMMENTS WHICH WILL SHOW THE BAD SIDE OF OUR COUNTRY AND WHICH WILL FURTHER PROMOTE THESE HEINOUS ACTS.... FUCK YOU AND YOUR DOUBLE STANDARDS MR EDITOR AND SITE OWNER..

zeeman said...

i guess this is not in Islamabad..
this is natural rabbits.no one can prevent it...tc

Top Guy in karachi said...

This article is true and quite old now . Gay life in karachi is much more expended.
if you want to see how much gay people exisit in Pakistan then visit nay of the gay website and then see with your own eyes.

from upper class to lower class everywhere gay are present. gay parties in karachi city is very much common i am a gay and i am spending my gay life in karachi city from last 12 years i am 28 now. i also visit lahaor and islamabad city but the gay life in karachi is much more better as people are more educated n humble and good in sex also.

Although thier are no pickup points and hookup points in karachi city so most of the time Normally gays dint go out for gattering they only meet people for sex/date from gay websites or in gay parties. But thier are many pure gays who use to sit regularly on some hotels in Karachi most of the time patahn Tea hotel like one opposite ot Expo Center thier is a tea stall many gays in the evening come to sit thier for chit chat only . they never use these spots for pickups..
In gulshan thier is a Tea hotel in between Nipa and Gulshan roundabout. the old KFC at nipa the biggest gay meetup point which is burnt and no more thier.

to see how many people are gays in Pakistan visit any of the below mention webiste

www.manjam.com
www.gaydar.co.uk

Anonymous said...

Secularism or independent opinion
you either. Live by the Sunnah or immigrate to west. Be free along with HIV/AIDS and lonelness. Society has no interest in Olde tatter use Queen. Ummah is not harsh nor, bias just plain. Truth
Allah wants us to respect the Deen.
Pakistan since economically stagnated society. Apppropiates unrealities if think lying Gay men.
Of Islamic sociites move to Libya
or Saudi Arabia. Acknowledge your
Gay Sharia law this the answer. I'll never accept your life style
We can respect each other but. The
truth is your confused to much
western influence. Tired of crying
you hate Islam. Become a lost individual move to rejected. Europe
and brag you married to men goodbye! Pakistan has enough problems high. Ratio of HIV what else everyone is openly Gay? Please

Kasaf said...

I am Kasif from Karachi. Its true that you can find so much sex in Karachi - gay sex I mean. I am a bottom and I am always able to pick 2-3 tops from shopping malls or dark alleys and then we have hell of a sex on beach or in my apartment. I wonder why people are so much against us. They chose to fuck g, we chose to have men. So whats wrong in that

Anonymous said...

I am visiting karachi and like to know where to meet other gay guys for coffee. just for friendship and we'll see what happens.
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Anonymous said...

Please tell me where to pick gays. Exact place please.
thanks

Anonymous said...

Shut the fuck up!
The guy who posted that Article must be gay...How does he know that much things about gayism.....even the parties for which he described that awl are not that common....If he knows that awl then he must b a Gay!!
Now get a Life!!
SWEEP B4 YOUR OWN DOOR FIRST!!

Maha said...

it's gud to know that there are gay people in pakistan who aren't afraid to pursue their interests (even if only temporary, sexual ones)... I'm a 18 yr old lesbian frm lahore but living in the Uk. It does surprise me however, that nearly all of the ppl commenting on this article happen to be gay men. I wud like to know wot life as a pakistani lesbian is like since i only came out as gay this year in england. Insightful article though!

Ali said...

I have a solution of this problem, see the status of Pakistan, i.e. Islamic Republic. What ever you want to do, do it in the limits prescribed by Islam. If you believe that Allah is everywhere. Then do believe while doing wrong, no one can watch you, but Allah.

Ali said...

No one is against except the Holy Koran. There must be some kind of details about all that you are discussing in the Koran, do read it and find your way. May be Allah is taking some exams from you, giving you feelings like a girl. Do not fail, please.

kyjelly said...

SALEEM there is nothing wrong with you my child. Being gay is not a sin, you were born with it and will die like this so just do what pleases you in life and stop worring about what HE or SHE thinks. Of course you have to be decent and be very careful Only because you live in Karachi Pakistan. other then that "its all Good my child".

Pak Lover said...

this is all shit
the writer is indian and is trying to make a bad impression of pak

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Anonymous said...

my goodness,
this is all lie........... Pakistan is a perfect n normal country with some resolvable problems......
U all are sons of QAUM E LOOT, and ALLAH will definitely punish you...
u are not born gays.......... u made urselves feel this, u all r ill n need cure....
aren't u ppl scared of AZAB????????

FAKE! said...

HAHA! Fake! guys be easy!,go through the article grammar again, its so not real , seems like someone's trying to present it as if its a real article! LOL sounds fake to me anyway!

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ameer77 said...

hi i m amir from karachi pak but live in italy. i m a liberal person. so when i c pakistan i think we r 1000n years back from thae world. me 2 muslim but no body can forced me 2 practicaly islam of himself like basterd taliban "zaliman"

Anonymous said...

To be a Homosexal is very much normal. I m from India and I find so many gays everywhere in most of the cities of India. Hindu scriptures openly discuss homosexuality and in Kamasutra it is even said that men can have relationships with men. So what is the fuss about. I am happy that Pakistani men are coming to terms with homosexuality. I know many Pakistani men who do it but do not accept it. I believe there is nothing unnatural. Everything is natural as it is the natural desire which comes in the minds of all men to sleep with some other men. Have a ball....kiran411030@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

nice to know that,evil has justification for right!
pakistan is a good land of lovely people,homosexualty as subject matter is only 7% of pakistani society,it seems impossible to achieve basic human rights;taboo, hell lot unseen by pakistan.